I would like to let readers know that I have reached the very difficult decision to stop writing my blog. This is a sad and hard post for me to write, but I feel that an explanation ought to be given here. I have been the victim of a vicious (and needless) smear campaign; this is not a problem per se, but my children have been brought into it and their safety and security has been compromised. As a mother, I cannot continue to write this blog if it endangers my family.
I am going to be forthright now. It is not my preference to do this, but my hand has been forced and I am left with no other options but to respond to the extreme aggression of two women. The person most responsible for this situation is a blogger who has gone by many handles; presently she goes by Lena S., but Lena S. is also Thag Jones, CL, ContentWoman, Chaotic Muse, Forgetful Muse, Appalled Christian, and probably many other handles as well. I know her real name, but even now I will not do to her the horrible things that she done to me by revealing her name publicly.
When Lena S. still went by CL, she glommed onto me after meeting me on Dalrock’s blog. She smothered me with attention and immediately began warning me about other women; in particular, she exhibited an intense hatred for Kathy Farley. She sent emails to me warning me that I had better ban Kathy from my blog or she (Lena/CL) would refuse to participate. She did inappropriate things like send me via email (and unasked) an unredacted IEP for one of her children – with their name, address, phone number, and school records! – before she even knew my real name. After her boyfriend, 7Man, closed their blog, I allowed her to post several guest essays on my site; her final essay was poorly received (it was on her theme about how women can’t submit to men unless those men are good leaders) and she blamed me for this. She developed an angry, hostile demeanor toward me and after several dust ups, she disappeared; little did I know that her obsession with me was growing rather than fading away. She resurfaced and has engaged in a relentless email smear campaign.
Lena S. has also co-opted Laura Grace Robins (lgrobins) of Unmasking Feminism to join in this needless witch hunt; Laura/lgrobins used to run a really interesting blog, but since Lena S. sort of took over there, all Laura writes are nasty posts about “red pill women” who, so far as I can tell, are just a group of women interested in self-improvement and who don’t harm or bother anyone and really have done nothing to earn her vicious attacks on them. I have never had any quarrel with Laura Grace Robins, so why she would want to attack me so aggressively is baffling; I do find it odd that a woman who blogs under a handle (Laura Grace Robins is not her real name) is in such a hurry to try to “doxx” other people, though. I hope no one returns the favor to her, but in my experience, if you engage in really rotten behavior, it tends to come back around. I did notice that Laura Grace Robins had posted something on her blog claiming that she was the victim of a smear campaign; I found this interesting because to my knowledge, no one is trying to smear her, but when you are involved in the kinds of smarmy behavior that she has been engaging in, it does tend to make you paranoid that other people are trying to do to you what you are already doing to them.
I was contacted several days ago by a well-respected manosphere blogger who had received an email written by Lena S/CL/Thag/Chaotic Muse, and he felt I should know what she is writing about me. Apparently numerous people received this email, but I was unaware of its existence. The blogger was concerned by the fact that my husband and children seem to be getting stalked by her (see the email at the bottom of this post), yet she calls me crazy. He was also concerned because Matt Forney had been contacted by Lena S. and told that I was calling CPS on women in the manosphere, and Matt told him he would be publishing this on his blog (previously Matt and I have had a cordial relationship and have never had any sort of falling out, but he has agreed to publish Lena’s false accusations anyway).
In the email that was forwarded to me, Lena S. makes all kinds of bizarre claims about me – that I’m into strange sexual practices, that I’m really a lesbian or bisexual, that my husband has weird sexual practices – none of this is even remotely true but neither does any of that bother me. That kind of gossip has never particularly bothered me and I see no reason to waste my time refuting such silliness.
Another thing that she rants about in the email is that I changed some of my family’s demographic information (where my husband worked/his job title/a few similar details) when I wrote my old blog because I was writing that blog anonymously, and I wanted to change some of (what I considered) the unimportant details in order to obscure our identity. After I was doxxed on that old blog and started a new blog, I no longer attempted to obscure our identities because I am easily google-able and pretty much anything you want to know about me can be found in a few clicks. I mentioned all this in a password-protected post last summer, but Lena S. did not have access to this post and obviously did not realize that her present attempts to “doxx” me are pointless because all this information is already fully out.
However, stop and ponder for a moment the true character of a woman who would attempt to doxx a fellow blogger’s husband by emailing his work address to everyone, even though he has never been part of my blog and has never done anything to her. I know Lena’s boyfriend’s real name and where he lives, yet I would never dream (even now) of revealing this information publicly because I have no reason to do so. Lena S/CL/ThagJones/ChaoticMuse has no reason to attempt to go after my husband, yet she does so anyway. This is such scuzzy behavior that I don’t even feel like I need to address it further; she damages her own credibility by her actions, and it astonishes me that she would try to pull male bloggers like Matt Forney into a game of let’s-you-and-her-fight. Can she not stand on her own two feet after she attacks someone?
What really bothers me is that in the email, she apparently claims that I threatened to contact CPS and attempted to have her children taken away. This claim is so strange and so fantastical that I cannot believe anyone took it seriously, but apparently a few people did, so I will address this.
First, it is 100% false. I have never called CPS on anyone in my life, let alone some random internet blogger about whom I know very little. She lives in Canada and I live in the United States, so I don’t even know how I could contact CPS even if I wanted to, which I don’t.
Second, let’s really think about this. Does it even make logical sense that I would call up CPS in a foreign country and say, “I don’t like this woman I know online. Go get her kids!” and that CPS would say “Okay, yes ma’am!”? This is laughable. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that even if I were inclined to call someone on her, it would be pointless because no one would take such an accusation seriously. I don’t know if Lena S. has had dealings with CPS in the past that would lead her to believe that they just swoop in and take people’s children away just because someone online doesn’t like them, but it is very difficult for me to believe that this would be the case.
Third, I have no information that leads me to believe Lena S. harms her children. Therefore, if I were to call CPS, I would knowingly be filing a false accusation. This is illegal. Lena S. is therefore apparently claiming publicly that I have engaged, or plan to engage, in illegal activity. I have no expertise in matters of law, but is it legal to accuse someone of engaging in, or planning to engage in, illegal activities with no evidence? According to the Online Defamation Law site, this would seem to fit the description of libel.
Fourth, there is no evidence that she can produce that I have ever called CPS on anyone or planned to do so. I would like her now to produce such evidence; I feel very confident that she will be able to produce none, simply because I have not done what she accuses me of. Until she is able to produce such evidence (which she will never be able to), I ask readers to disbelieve this accusation.
And fifth, I will explain why Lena S. believes that I am planning to or have called CPS on her. Last summer there were a rash of silly fan-fiction type blogs written about me by a couple of mischievous feminists. This really isn’t the biggest problem in the world, though I did mention these events in a password-protected post last summer. In one comment thread, I left a couple of comments which were later edited by the blog author to make it look I said all kinds of weird stuff that I did not say, including accusations that I was going to contact authorities and CPS and who knows all. To my knowledge, Lena S. was not mentioned by name in those comments, and I don’t think those comments are even still there (though I’m not 100% sure), but at some point she clearly found these feminist blogs, read the comments, and assumed it was all about her. I have tried to explain to her what happened, but she claims the comments revealed detailed information about her family that only I would know, yet this is untrue. I know practically nothing about her family; though she is clearly obsessed with me, I do not reciprocate the obsession at all and have mostly forgotten any personal information that I ever did know about her.
As to how that blog author could have known such information – at one point last year Lena did speak publicly on an old blog of her about some difficulties one of her children was having; I and several commenters discussed it with her. I think I recommended that she ask the school social worker for help, though I don’t remember very well exactly what was said; however, feminist trolls read our blogs daily, so the likelihood that someone from the feminist-sphere saw this and decided to troll her is pretty high.
So once more, for clarity: I have never called CPS on anyone in my life, have no plans to call them on Lena S or anyone else, and therefore I know that it is physically impossible for someone to produce evidence to the contrary.
The thing that Lena S. wrote in this email that is so disturbing that it has led me to close this blog is this: she reveals that she has cyberstalked my children and includes links to their social media accounts. I insist that my children keep their social media accounts set to “private” and they have obeyed me, except for one old google plus account that our eldest daughter created several years ago and then forgot about. There is nothing bad there, but there are many, many pictures of all five children, some at their school. She seems to have sent the link to this open page full of pictures of my children to some men in the manosphere, who then spent time looking through pictures of my little children. I trust all the big-name sphere bloggers, but there are plenty of new, smaller sphere blogs whose authors I don’t know from Adam. How would you feel to know that your children, clearly visible and with their school name easily identifiable, were being viewed online by people who may live nearby and whose character you do not know? Sending that link was an incredibly slimly thing to do, and this speaks volumes about Lena S’s character and intentions.
And finally, about my children: my husband and I have been raising five girls. In addition to that, several months ago, my father-in-law died; we are still grieving the loss of him and in fact are having a memorial service to commemorate his life this very weekend. However, last month, Lena and Laura, while stalking me online, pulled up my recently-deceased father-in-law’s obituary in which only two of our children’s names are listed. I began receiving ask.fm questions, all very aggressive and some which called me names, accusing me of lying about our children and threatening to “expose” me as a “fraud”. I was baffled by this; there is nothing to expose, but even if I really did not have five children…who cares? What business is it of theirs? I write a minor blog on which I sell nothing – do I owe information about my children to anyone? I don’t believe I owe this information to anyone, yet I am also not attempting to hide anything. My husband and I are (and have been for years) raising someone else’s children in addition to our own. Out of respect for that person, I will simply say no more about this. Those of you who received Lena S’ email and picked through my daughter’s google plus page have already seen numerous pictures of all the children together – at school, on Christmas morning in their PJs, on vacation – and can thus verify what I am saying.
But ask yourself this: what would you say is the character and trustworthiness of a woman who has spent an entire year of her life harassing and stalking another woman online simply because she doesn’t like her, threatening to reveal information about her husband, and sending links to her children’s social media accounts to random men? This is what Lena S./CL/ThagJones has done by her own admission. And Laura Grace Robins (lgrobins) supports it.
I have never gossiped publicly about these women. I have never engaged in any “email campaigns” against either of them; frankly, I have never wanted anything to do with them. Because I know Lena S’s real identity, it has been suggested to me that I return the favor and publicly post her name, address, phone number, her children’s names, their school, and all the other things that she has posted or emailed about me and my family. However, no matter how evil and deranged her behavior is, I cannot do to her what she has done to me for the simple reason that I am unwilling to do anything that could potentially bring harm to her children. If I were to emulate her behavior and publish this information, who knows who might see it? Anyone can read online, including people with harmful intentions. Although Lena S has no problem with doxxing other people’s little kids (and I have no doubt will probably respond to this post by widely publishing more information about my innocent children), I will never ever stoop to her level by doing something that could be harmful to her children.
However, the upshot of this is that I feel that Lena S’s (and to a lesser extent, Laura Grace Robins’) continued cyberstalking, harassment, and rumor-mongering poses a significant potential threat to my husband’s reputation and my children’s safety. For that reason, even though I enjoy my blog and write it in the spirit of trying to help others, I will need to cease writing it. I’m disappointed to leave it like this because I’ve emailed with so many readers who write to tell me that my blogging has been helpful to them, but please understand that I cannot allow my children’s well-being to be jeopardized by my blogging.
Here is Lena’s email to Matt Forney which he then sent to multiple people, one of whom forwarded it to me. Most of what she writes about me and my family is simply untrue; be forewarned that there is extremely crass, ugly language throughout the email. Note the aggressive, obsessive stalking of my husband and children, who are innocent victims in this entire event. She writes:
“I gave up because there was no way for me to fight it. There is no defence against a crazy woman; you just have to walk away. I ignored [Sunshine’]s emails for years but she kept on sending them, making accusations based on shit from 3 years ago. She’s only stopped because I’ve disappeared so no food for her. This is how these women are – they seem to feed off the drama and never drop it. Sunshine (most ironic name ever) is a deeply unhappy woman. I’d feel sorry for her if she wasn’t such a cunt and so bent on misleading people so she can feel like the cock of the walk. (Penis envy? LOL) She’s never got over hhg’s 30+ “affairs” (given the sound of him, one wonders if those were even with women) and this is her revenge of a sort – look at all the men that like me!
So, what you say about her email sounds typical. She accused me of being “obsessed” with her at Keoni’s after [Kathy] attacked me there. Keoni deleted a bunch of the comments so it’s not there anymore, but she did the same thing at one of the parody blogs that I found way after it happened because I saw a link at [REDACTED].
She also had a convoluted story (at Keoni’s in a 500 word or so comment that he deleted – should have screencapped it) about how someone pretending to be me contacted her “via a pingback” so that’s why she thought I’d written the parody, but she has my real email and never contacted me there. First of all, this is as bad as her “they stole my IP” about the feminists; how the hell do you contact someone pretending to be someone else via a pingback!? Secondly, the fems haven’t paid much attention to me and I seriously doubt they would have pretended to be me of all people. A dubious story at best.
Her first resort was to threaten me and my kids with government goons. If a woman in the sphere had done that three years ago, she’d have been hung out to dry. The only people who seemed to care were inforwarrior and Will S., two childless single men. (Will S. has met me off the Internet, so he can vouch for the fact that I’m just some mom living in an apartment with her two kids, lol). To me that says a lot. The women made excuses for their Queen and attacked me further (Velvet went bananas at [Laura Grace Robins’], accusing us of recruiting [Laura Grace] to our “cult” and that I was out looking for young fillies for my stud amongst other crap. LOL) Again, this is why I quit; you can’t fight crazy. Where [Laura Grace] and I have tried to draw attention to this we’re accused of cat fighting and jealousy, so it’s useless.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she has some sort of personality disorder. There’s a lot to this that few can see. The basis is that her whole persona is a façade. She is not attracted to her husband, she wears the pants, she is femDOM topping from the bottom and she lies by omission all the time so that it is difficult to catch unless you’re paying attention. She’s basically femDOMed the whole sphere.
She has led everyone to believe she has 4 or 5 daughters, yet look at this obit – only two girls’ names for grandchildren: http://deathnotices.michigan.com/view-single.php?id=335236&token=
If you look at her daughter’s google+ page, there is only mention of one sister and pics with more kids are friends – so Sunshine has posted pictures of other people’s kids in her blog comments (probably without permission) leading people to believe they are all hers. https://plus.google.com/117890564062773074892/posts
Further on that google page, [I’m redacting my daughter’s name, but Lena includes it in the original] says she was born in 1995, so either she is lying about her age or Sunshine is (ssm says she has a 14 year-old daughter). By the looks of [redacting my daughter’s name], I’d say she’s the one lying there (learned from her dear old mother, no doubt). Not to mention that she accused feminists of stealing photos of her children, but there they are for everyone to see.
This comment matches our observations quite well (I know it’s a batshit blog, but the comment seems sincere to me): http://rooshnme.blogspot.com/2013/11/sunshine-mary-turns-me-off.html?showComment=1386170361289#c2316878092643673634
People tend to rail hardest against that which they themselves do or have done. Think of the pastors who rail against homosexuality only to be caught buggering some guy in a bathroom stall later.
I suspect ssm was quite the little slut back in her college days. I recently sockpuppeted at her blog using a proxy and basically her answer to my allegations was, “I never said I engaged in bisexual activity”, but she rather conspicuously, at least to me, never unequivocally stated that she didn’t. If it weren’t true, you can bet your ass a woman would say “I never did that”, not ”I never said I did that”. That’s similar to the non-apology apology, “I’m sorry you feel that way.”
But does someone become the president of an admitted party house without being “popular” and going along with the culture? And what woman would cultivate a reputation of being promiscuous if she weren’t? She certainly admitted to having “not shaved” because that was the thing at her house, and that there was lots of girl on girl action going on (with other girls and her lesbo/bi roommate – yeah, right). She also said she travelled to other universities and sorority houses – gee, do ya think she partook of some of the hedonistic delights there too? Do you think she is so worried about sluts at colleges because that was her experience and she’s afraid her daughter will do the same?
I can dig out those links for you if you want them but it’ll be a PITA since she posts so damn much. But behind the façade she seems to be a typical morally superior Christian reformed slut. She was so wonderful she brought her philandering husband to heel with her spiritual superiority and now she lets him lead! LOL
Women do tend to extrapolate from personal experience and have trouble imagining that someone else didn’t have the same experience or that they were in the minority. (Of course, I don’t know; it seems my experience of uni was vastly different from hers since I hung out with a bunch of dweebs and nerds, at least half of whom were virgins and as far as I know stayed that way. I also didn’t go to an American (or Canadian) university but one full of Oxford and Cambridge rejects, so perhaps a completely different culture). Gee, I actually could have grovelled my way up to the lower echelons of the elite given my educational institution and people I know, but that’s just not me. So the idea that I’m some kind of operative (and I’m certain she’s used that one against me in her email campaigns as well) is just laughable. These dweebs don’t know what they’re talking about and probably need to GTFO the Internet for a while.
She’s also claimed that they are UMC and that hhg earns 6 figures. Unless he works some other job, also a lie:http://www.umsalary.info/peoplesearch.php?LName=Thiry&FName=Philip+J&Year=2&Campus=1
You can google map her house and no, that ain’t UMC friends, but she is dumb enough to have to live in the nicest house on the street, which I suppose makes her feel like she’s more than she is. http://www.whitepages.com/name/Sunshine-L-Thiry/Ypsilanti-MI/56epnpn
My speculation is that she stayed with hhg for the status and nothing more, since her pride wouldn’t be able to take being a poor single mom. She says he hasn’t cheated in 9 years as far as she knows and her youngest child is 8 years old. I’ll speculate again and say that since that’s a big gap between kids (all the while he’s out fucking other people) she probably went off the contraception and got knocked up in an attempt to tie him down more securely. Maybe she calls artificial hormonal contraception “Satan’s little helper” because that, as she sees it, basically allowed him to go screwing around, but then all of a sudden her magic vajayjay without the contraception made him settle down! It’s a miracle!”
This is quite an email, is it not? Full of filthy language and false accusations and obvious obsessive stalking. Notice the amount of time she spent finding links about my husband and children and even my father-in-law’s death notice, for heaven’s sake; I won’t refute some of her inaccuracies, but take everything she has found here with a grain of salt because even her links are not fully accurate.
Does the person who wrote this email sound like a trustworthy person to you?
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